Police release video of arrest that led to suit

Lawrence Crosby, holding what turned out to be a cell phone in his left hand.

Evanston police this evening released video and audio recordings from an incident in which police, responding to a 911 call about a stolen car, ended up pulling over the car's owner -- and the confrontation that followed.

The incident has led to a lawsuit filed against the city and four police officers by the car's driver, Lawrence Crosby, a Northwestern University graduate student.

Here's the video prepared by the police department.

City Manager Wally Bobkiewicz this evening said he and Police Chief Richard Eddington plan to present a series of policy and procedure changes for the Police Department at the next meeting of the City Council's Human Services Committee meeting on Monday, Feb. 6.

Development of those changes began, Bobkiewicz says, following a presentation to the committee in September by Gilo Kwesi Logan, a diversity consultant hired by the city.

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EPD has a very difficult job

EPD has a very difficult job to do and in most cases they perform very well. This video will likely be viewed by millions and I suspect a rather large check will be written by the City indicating Mr. Crosby as payee and he has it coming. While there does not appear to be anything inherently racial here, there will be many who see nothing but and will fan the flames ever higher. Evanston leaders best prepare for the spotlight.

I think more people will see

I think more people will see that guy in the red hoodie jabbing Crosby on the ground. 

Why is it that you're guilty

Why is it that you're guilty until proven innocent when you're a black AMERICAN???????

Audio doesn't sound racist?

So...the audio of her saying "i racially profiled him" doesnt sound racist? How about the fact that there wasnt another approach taken instead of assuming the racist caller was right without a doubt. The police chose to handle the situation like he was on the run, armed and dangerous. I blame the lady who followed him around like she was expecting a super hero plaque and the end for stoping a crime that never happened. This lady is just lke the typical racist whos is afraid of ANYONE that doesnt look like them. lets not make excuses and sugarcoat it.

The young woman never says

The young woman never says she racially profiled him.  She says that she wasn't trying to racially profile.  Why did she feel the need to explain this?  Well she's a white college student and had probably had it rammed down her throat that she should feel terrible about being white (the current liberal wisdom on the matter of race).  Remember George Zimmerman?  He identified Trayvon Martin as black when specifically asked, and was publicly crucified by the media as a bigot for doing so.

A person who calls 911 to report an apparent crime is a Good Samaritan.  They are trying to help society.  We can't expect everyone who sees an apparent crime to be psychic and know for sure all the details of what's going on — that's why you call the police to investigate the matter.  In this case, the police showed up and committed assault in lieu of investigating.  If she had tried to apprehend an apparent car thief by herself, that would have been trying to be a hero.

Does anyone else find it ironic that the police "accidentally" forgot to bleep out the caller's name on the first release of the tapes, yet we still don't know the names of the officers who assaulted Mr. Crosby?  The Evanston PD set the 911 caller up to take the heat. 

The young woman never says

'A person who calls 911 to report an apparent crime is a Good Samaritan', needs to be really careful.    George Zimmerman was asked about Martin but was told by dispatcher not to get out of the vehicle and approach the subject due to mistaken situation and Zimmerman thought Martin did not live in that gated community where the incident happened as if he knew everyone who lived there.   We will never know what really happened that night in Florida.

C'mon man

You had to see the cop in the red giving the guy REPEATED body shots. Officer Mike Tyson I presume. Lol.

Drivers rights

When the student got out of the car they could have asked him to get back in the car. You have the right to know why you are being pulled over for. The aggressiveness of the police was not necessary. The student was very respectful towards the officer's even while being punched in the side. The lady that called 911 was wrong and the statement that she made was not even necessary. I have much respect for the police as my mother is a retired officer and I have plenty of friends that are officers. I am not saying that all officers are good but we need to treat them with respect, too.

"...turned out to be a cell phone."

Was there really any question about it being a cell phone? It seems pretty obvious it was just that. 

While we all have our own

While we all have our own lense on things, we do not walk in the shoes of an Evanston PD Officer, who has to make split second decisions.

Split second decisions?

Split second decisions? I'm pretty sure I know you don't need to swarm and gang-tackle a clearly unarmed suspect who has his hands up. I agree that Mr. Crosby is probably going to get a very large settlement from the City of Evanston. And deservedly so. I can already hear the cynics saying "well why did he get out of the car, he shouldn't have done that"...to which I say that the *safest* thing for him to do was for him to calmly get out of the car with his hands up in full view of the police. As a white man I cannot imagine that I would ever get such treatment from a group of police officers.

Ever catch an episode of Cops

Ever catch an episode of Cops?? Happens to white guys plenty. Usually for good reason.

Ridiculous

Im a police officer and there is no reason to mob tackle a person with no probable cause it's extremely poor judgment and just ridiculous.  

PHD Student of Color Mistreated by Officers of the EPD

Dirk G, thanks for sharing your position. I wish more people would acknowledge the horrible treatment of Mr. Crosby. The young man was mistreated and disrespected because he was a black man accused of stealing his own car. Evanstonians need to stop making excuses for police officers that try to create a charge against an innocent man. Those officers were trying to figure out what charge would stand up in court. The officers should be held accountable. You can here an officer trying to convince the others to let Mr. Crosby go. Others were laughing while trying to decide if they shoulf tow Mr. Crosby's car. When they realized that Mr. Crosby owned the car that he was driving, they should have apologized to him and allowed the caller to apologize as well.

Car theft has become quite

Car theft has become quite common in Evanston and personally, I appreciate EPD efforts to aggressively target these thieves. The woman that called did the right thing by reporting something that didn't seem right. The officers were responding to a 911 theft in progress call as opposed to visiting a victim after the fact to write paper.  

The takedown, assault, and the discussion of talk of charges against Mr. Crosby were entirely inappropriate but nothing shows that this happened because he was black!  It is Chief Eddington's responsibility to see that this incident is thoroughly investigated and appropriate action taken against any and all officers that overreacted.

You've got to be kidding

You've got to be kidding, right? Dealing aggressively with car thieves is one thing... but Mr. Crosby is the rightful owner of the car that he was aggressively arrested for allegedly stealing. The sad part is no one person had the decency to apologize. Instead Mr. Crosby is rebuked -- be glad he wasn't shot. And white folks across America wonder why Black Lives Matters exists. Unbelievable.

You need to consider inherent bias

You need to consider inherent bias. When you say that the woman reported "something that didn't seem right," it's important to factor how race informs our notions of what is "right." Would a white man standing by his car be assumed to be a car thief? Would an unarmed white man who steps out of the car with his hands up be tackled by multiple police officers? If that were happening regularly, we would see lawsuits by whites who were falsely arrested or assaulted by police. But we don't. Instead, we have instances like this and Henry Louis Gates, Jr. being arrested for breaking into his own home, because people assume that black men are doing things that are not "right."

You might want to consider

You might want to consider that not everybody is afflicted with the bias problem. The woman thought she saw Mr. Crosby attempting to pry the car open. She did not say "there is a black man standing by a car and my inherent bias tells me he is likely to steal it". Nor did she have any idea who she may have been protecting from losing their car.  Do you think that she perceived a black man stealing a white man's car and that was her motivation?  She has no blame here.

As for Mr.Gates, he was entirely responsible for that whole dust-up. He was indeed breaking into the house (his) late at night and a neighbor called the cops to investigate. Upon the cops arrival, instead of offering any appreciation for their efforts he became irate and beligerant refusing to show identification. He made preposterous racial accusations (exercising his "inherent bias"against the officers including the supervisor who had acompletely unblemished record of over 30 years. Mr. Gates was subsequently arrested when the supervisor no longer felt like taking the abuse. I have read the transcripts of the case. Have you?     

Newly elected President Obama hastily made a public statement saying "the police acted stupidly" without having any of the facts of the case. He then tried to soothe things with the famous "beer summit". I'll bet that was a lovely party.  Mr. Gates isn't always as nice as he appears on TV.

 

You might want to consider

At the end of the scene, you can hear the woman telling the police that she didnt mean to racially profile the guy. So, obviously, she was profiling. And further more, the dispatcher should have told her not to follow the car since she could be wrong. And she was. What if the police shot the guy to death, then what?

It is different being Black

I am a 63 year old white women, sorry I can't fathom being treated this way. Police need to pay up and, more importantly, learn from this experience.

When you say

When you say "police need to pay up" do you mean the city's taxpayers?

Was it a split second decision?

Was it a split second decision to actually ARREST the guy and take him down the startion too?  I think that little extra bit of "FU" is what makes people think this was racially motivated.  They made a mistake and thought the car was stolen?  Fine.  They used excessive force?  Ugh... okay they were scared of his cell phone.  After they knew it was his car all along - and still put him under arrest?  GET FIRED.

The arrest was not for the

The arrest was not for the suspected car theft, but for resisting arrest, which is an arrestable offense.

Resisting arrest was thrown out and they knew it wouldn't stick

They discuss that on the tape AND STILL insist on figuring out a charge AND taking him into custody AND leaving his car in a zone where it could be towed. Almost any police incident can be trumped up to resisting arrest once an officer makes any physical contact. With four officers in a dog pile, it's a fait accompli. It was still a BS charge. They knew it, and you know it too.

Did you watch the same

Did you watch the same footage I watched? He clearly resisted arrest.

Exactly how quickly should

Exactly how quickly should someone drop to the ground on a cold winter night when several guys are rushing at you with guns and blinding you with spot lights? The most natural reaction is to flight or fight. He resisted both and froze. I am curious how you would react and how quick you would drop to the ground on your face.

Split Second Decisions

I'm sorry, did the driver have more time to react to the police than the police had to react to him? There was no need to make a split second decision here. All they had to do was run the plate and theyb would have learned the car wasn't stolen. Once they learned that, they would have no cause to even stop the innocent man.

You are correct, however when

You are correct, however when do stop giving unqualified people excuses for they're bad judgment. I would like for rational people who know how to diffuse a situation effectively, is this was your so or your father, you'd say that that split decision was wasn't warranted. We have to start holding the people who are supposed to uphold our rights accountable and stop making excuses for them. 

What part of that incident was split second?

While we all have our own, no part of this incident required the police to act within a split second. The owner of the car was standing next to his vehicle with his hands in the air. There was no weapon and no threat. Especially with 7 armed officers with weapons drawn on the black man. The 911 caller even admitted on the 911 tape that she may have been profiling. 

And they, police officers,

And they, police officers, don't walk in the shoes of Blacks, who are/ were unjusticedly abused by cops!

EPD is Great

EPD is great but I will say they approached this wring they threaten this young man, if 6 officers cant restrain a student then hell they are not worthy ro wear the uniform no need to strike him. I as a father am pretty upset at this young man treatment, the officers comments,  and how this transpired he deserved better EPD had a bad stop here. Please dont drag down the rest of the dept who do an outstanding job with defending these clowns openly discussing ways to charge this student.

They should of apologized and

They should of apologized and let the PHD student go home!  They just wanted to take him down.  I wonder how many other black men have gone to jail behind false charges!

My 2 cents

Crosby gets pulled over and quickly exits his car at night with an object in his hand. Who in their right mind would emerge from their car with a cell phone in their hand while being pulled over by police? When officers shout to get on the ground immediately, he clearly does not.

This is not a routine traffic stop but a stolen car investigation. Once police had Crosby on the ground you can see he resisted being handcuffed. However, the judge threw out the resisting arrest charge, in which I hesitantly agree with - give the guy a break, it was his car..  

Innocent or guilty people must remember when they are stopped by police they are NOT in control at all.

The problem here that I see is Crosby like so many others are quick to challenge and resist police, playing victim. It's the false narrative that police target minorities more than whites and shoot and kill more blacks than whites. Nationwide, police have shot and killed more whites than non whites. Take a look at Evanston. Where does most of the violent crime occur? Answer,: in predominantly areas consisting of African Americans.

It's the job of police to prevent and stop crime and enforce the law. Where do ya suppose police will spend more time doing this? I wonder how many times Evanston police responded to a car burglary call and actually arrested the suspect for stealing a car or possessing an illegal firearm?

The woman who called police did the right thing and I hope in the future people do not hesistate to call police if they see something wrong, even if it feels like profiling. Political correctness has never been proven to stop crime. 

Give a shout out to Mayoral candidate Brian Miller who pulled the strings to get this video released 1.5 years later to agitate voters, just in time for the mayoral election. Miller sure has been busy, poking a black eye on Evanston police and trying to get his opponents kicked off the ballot.

Thanks for saying what most

Thanks for saying what most refuse to understand or acknowledge.  

How would you feel?

As a white male in American , I can say you nor I, will never understand the challenges associated with being a black male and being pulled over by the police. Black people have been beaten, murdered, and wrongly treated for years. Yet, people such as yourself feel compelled to share how wrong/guilty this young man was and others are when they don't follow standard procedures. Yet place no blame on anyone else when they fail to follow standard procedures. So, I encourage you to put yourself in his shoes. No, take a minute to imagine what life might be as a black male in America. Think about how you would feel if someone said this about you or racially profiled you. Maybe then you could empathize with his side. If you can't, you too are apart of the problem.

Take off your race goggles

Consider this: if America is such a racist nation how is it that we twice elected a black president and why is it that for decades low educated impoverished brown people most of whom can't speak English risk their lives sneaking into America?

By framing arguments merely based on race is shallow thinking. Have you ever been poor? Do you know what it's like?  Do you understand the challneges of being poor? I do.

Did ya know there are more white people in America living in poverty than minorities living in poverty? Take a minute and consider how it feels when you're told you have it made cause you have white privilege all the while you struggle to pay rent or last month's water bill.

If you want to believe you're being pulled over, shot at or denied something simply because of your race you will find a reason to justify it. It's the easy way out.

Crosby is lucky he wasn't shot. In  June 1999, two unarmed black motorists were shot and killed by Chicago police in separate incidences. One of them was a Northwestern football player. In both cases, the victims resisted or failed to comply with police demands. No charges were filed after a lengthy investigation. Both cops were African American. I can cite numerous cases were unarmed whites were shot and killed and no indictments.

My point - cops don't care about your race. They just want to do their job and expect people to listen and not resist. It's that simple.

So take off your race goggles and see the messy complicated real world for once. You might understand that you shouldn't judge someone by the color of their skin but rather the content of their character.

racist nation comment

Good grief, I can assure you that the racists of this nation did not vote for Obama twice. We'll see if the court feels that THESE officers were doing their duly appointed job, according to their training and rules. I think it will be a stretch for them to claim he was resisting arrest. They didn't even give him a chance to get down to the ground. Obviously most police officers don't act the way these officers did and there are comments by officers on this page, who indicated that, in their view, the officers' actions were inappropriate. There is a way to de-escalate a situation, and none of that occurred in this video. I would also not rule out the fact, and it is established fact, that some police officers/gym rats use steroids. While police unions might bitch and moan about drug testing, it seems to me that it would not be out of line to do so, given the potential for substance abuse of all kinds, among police officers. Steroids in particular, can lead to a lower threshold for rage, and more importantly, can lead to the development of cardiovascular disease, the cost of which will ultimately be borne by the taxpayers, who pay for the benefits these officers receive.

You have identified your

You have identified your color Jon and make bold assumptions as to my complexion and my understanding the difficulty of being a Black American. You really should not do that.

  I said in a previous post that I didn't see anything inherently racial in the incident. I've watched the video many times since and I still feel that way. I also said that many people would only see racism and would use this video to fan those flames. From most of the posts here and other places I see that I was correct.

I've had many interactions with the police in my lifetime. When it comes to traffic stops, as an adult, I have never been anything but FULLY cooperative in those instances. I find things tend to go more smoothly that way though not always in my favor. I have never carried any illegal firearms in my vehicle and make it a point not to ride with those that do.

I have been profiled and found it unnerving. Happened at O'hare when I exited a plane from Florida. I was detained and searched as was my bag. When they did not find the drugs they thought I might have been transporting, they explained why I had been detained and I was released. I didn't like it but i didn't resist either and believe profiling (of all kinds) to be a useful police technique. I know from personal experience that it is not an exact sciencehowever.

I do believe Mr. Crosby played a role in this as he unnecessarily elevated the situation after he exited the vehicle. I said in my first post he will likely be compensated and I think he should get something. It appears a court will make that determination. Mr. Crosby, you, and me will have to accept the court's ruling.

I assure you Mr. Phiips Moore that I abhor abuse of power and despise bullies. If EPD has any of that within their ranks, I support proper discipline/ separation action. I firmly believe that the command staff  (which is quite diverse) provide proper oversight and Chief Eddington is leading the department properly in increasingly difficult times.

I shall continue to be empathetic and rational in my daily Life. Thank you for the suggestions.

Crosby IS the victim

Crosby...playing the victim? He is the victim. He owned the car.

I see. You find no fault

I see. You find no fault with the police or the woman. Do you suppose its possible that if he was white, she would have thought of him as someone fixing his car? Do you suppose if he was white, the police would have quietly asked him to get back into the car? Do you suppose he got out of his car because of so many reports of black people being gunned down by the police, and so he felt safer outside? Did you even try to look at the possibility that human beings are racists all over the world, including in Africa?

Getting out of the car

Do people typically get out of the car after they get pulled over? That was his major mistake and what caused a completely unnecessary ruckus. I don't know why somebody would do that, but it's always unsettling when police are pulling you over (especially with the BLINDING light right on you), so he probably just wasn't thinking clearly at the time. Maybe there needs to be more widespread education that when a police pulls you over, you're supposed to stay in the car. At least, that's what I've always been told. If he had stayed put, they'd ask for his license and registration, he'd provide it, and then be on his way.

There is no law that says you

There is no law that says you can't come out of the car when you have been pulled over. If you have been following the news you have seen many victims get shot in their car for apparently reaching for "something", so you comment is unfounded. That aside, when he did provide them with all the necessary information to ascertain to the fact that it was his car what did they do? They connived and tried to trump up charges to convict him. These charges were subsequently dismissed by a judge. Don't forget these same Evanston Police Officers just assaulted another African American running for City Council Clerk like a month ago. Evanston Police are a bunch of losers.

Never said it's impossible

Never said it's impossible for bad things to happen if you stay in the car, just that it decreases the likelihood. That's all. And in this case, I expect it would have made all the difference. Not suggesting he did anything illegal at all, just was a bit stupid in the moment to come out. I have done my fair share of stupid things too....

You talk about likelihood but

You talk about likelihood but yet decline to entertain the idea that if a cop can bring up a bogus charge (on what you clearly saw) on a man who they can see, just imagine if he was in the car and that cell phone became a gun or so it appeared. Would you be able to say that he should have stayed in the car? Or would you say that it is not enough evidence to prove if the guy did reach for a gun or not? Say the cop shot him dead. No one would know if I looked like he was reaching because the camera doesn't show that. So judging by their behavior and their comment saying that he's lucky he didn't get shot, I think it was a smart move to get out of the car.

Let's not blame the victim

Let's not blame the victim that was kicked and punched.  Many drivers have been killed by police officers while complying.  Mr. Crosby was probably afraid that he might die.

There are no guarantees

Sadly, when a confrontation like this is influenced by implicit bias, which appears to have been the case here, there aren't any guarantees, there aren't any sure-fire rules for staying safe, which is why as author Ta-Nehisi Coates has written, the level of trauma is rising in black communities. Imagine driving on a simple errand, or to work, or walking down the street, and not knowing if you're going to make it home alive just because you have dark skin. It's my memory that a few months ago a federal judge agreed that it might now be more logical for a black person pulled over to consider running away, based on the statistical likelihood of not surviving the encounter. Across this country in recent years, some black men have been killed while standing still, while others have been killed while not standing still. Some have been killed while putting their hands up while others have been killed while leaving their hands at their sides. Some have been killed while staying in the car (Philando Castile comes to mind) while others have been killed after getting out of the car.  Some have been killed while complying with every single command from police officers present, while others have been killed without any commands being uttered (if memory serves, this is true of 21-year-old Tamir Rice). The problem is implicit bias, the hidden programming all of us receive at an early age, and we can do something about it only if we acknowledge it and work to remedy it. It's my hope that this incident will be the wake-up call that EPD needs to address the problem before someone in a confrontation like this ends up dead. I am so relieved that Mr. Crosby survived this encounter. 

You gotta be kidding

" It's my memory that a few months ago a federal judge agreed that it might now be more logical for a black person pulled over to consider running away, based on the statistical likelihood of not surviving the encounter. " Please, post a link to this because I guarantee there isn't one.
"When African Americans and Latinos are stopped and questioned by police, they are no more likely to be killed or seriously injured than are white people drawn into similar encounters with the police..."- LA TIMES July 25, 2016.
Tamir Rice, was waving around an exact replica gun at people on the street..., People who then called the police. Police arrive and Rice pulled the pistol from his waist.
Go away. Awful attempt at justifying your delusional beliefs.
What a joke

 Across the Country in 2016

Across the Country in 2016 there were over 60 police officers murdered in the line of duty. Many were shot when responding to calls for service. Some were just sitting in their cars when they were shot in the head. Five were shot in Dallas last Summer protecting demonstrators rights to protest against them.  Now that was some implicit bias!  Not aware of any EPD being shot but they are increasingly being assaulted and are finding guns during traffic stops with alarming frequency. They do a tough job in a dangerous time for  a society that has turned on them. Started about 8 years ago.

Police murders over years

The lowest number of police killed in a year since 1948 was in 2013, very well into the Obama era. Turns out 2016 was indeed an anomaly as far as police deaths go -- the trend has been steadily downward since the early 70s. Make up any numbers you want, but I'm using the numbers from the Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund. Compare that with the number of non-police killed by police, which is at least 1500% higher!!!

The fact is, being a cop is a relatively safe job -- way safer than being a nurse, or a firefighter, or a trash collector. Everybody makes this out to be some horribly dangerous trade, but it's not.

Alyce, beautifully put. This

Alyce, beautifully put. This young man, and so many like him, are put in impossible situations. Situations  that those of us with light skin very rarely, if ever, face.  He bears zero blame whatsoever.  

 I am so grateful he survived this terrible experience. 

Let's all keep in mind that the 911 call was for a possible stolen vehicle, a non-violent offense. He wasn't trying to escape in the car, no one claimed he had a weapon, he had his hands in the air and moved slowly and spoke respectfully. Does that warrant an attack and beat down by four or five officers?  Would the same have happened if the suspect had been white? Female? Nope. 

More than 75% of the people

More than 75% of the people shot and killed by police are not black. So yes, this happens to white people. And this happens to women.

Police shootings data

The nationwide database of fatal police shootings created by the Washington Post shows that 233 of the 963 people killed in 2016 were black -- or roughly 24 percent.

However, it's worth noting that the Census Bureau says 13.3 percent of Americans identify as black, while 2.6 percent say they are of two or more races.

By contrast, the Post's database says 48 percent of the people killed by police were white, while the Census Bureau says 61.6 percent of Americans identify as being non-Hispanic whites.

Therefore the data indicates that blacks are proportionately substantially more likely than whites to be killed by police.

Hispanics make up 17 percent of those listed as killed by police in the Post's database ... and 17.6 percent of the U.S. population.

-- Bill

Yes, he was thinking clearly

He got out of the car and immediately raised his hands to demonstrate he was no threat.  He knew exactly what he was doing - to protect himself as quickly as possible.  Then he was stomped to the ground by officers that were all hyped up for a takedown.  Absolutely and totally unprofessional of them to act that way.  Six guys on top of him, one clearly punching him, then the "Stop Resisting" calls they make.  When you're getting punched, your body is going to contract, but of course, they say "Stop Resisting" to cover themselves and one officer has to actually tell the other one to stop punching him.  Horrable behavior in what is supposed to be a trained officer.  They should know and do know better, but failed to size up the situation accurately and respond appropriately.

Again, clearly a gang all hyped up with no self control.

Still does not give them the

Still does not give them the right to beat down a man with his hands up no no threat regardless if he/she gets out of the vehicle or not...

But if they've already

But if they've already suspected you of stealing the car. I don't see them walking to the car calmly anyway.

Sorry?

I have great respect for the work EPD does and challenges they face.  I've been educated on a ride along with EPD and saw briefly the issues they face first-hand. Its imitimidating coming up on an unknown vehicle. But we all make mistakes.  What is troubling is the EPD in-car conversation that suggests they need to make this into "something." That collusion pains me to hear.  I was hoping for somewhere in the tape for a sorry to the driver--"We were following up on a tip, and we were incorrect. We are very sorry."--but that only seemed to come from the woman cell phone-accuser at the very end realizing she was horribly incorrect.
 

Evanston Police

I pray this all goes well for everyone, including and especially the subject. But also I pray this wasn't a set up. I pray that everyone is okay. I pray the police are all okay and it seems like just a misunderstanding on the citizen's part that called. Her contact info should have been omitted from this.

Personal info

After issues were raised concerning the personal information about the driver and the 911 caller included in the video, the city today made some changes to the video package, muting the audio to conceal that information. Our story now links to that revised version of the video.

-- Bill

Sure looks like a set up

unless of course the whole thing is a long series of coincidences...and you believe in that sort of thing.

I agree. Mr. Crosby

I agree. Mr. Crosby conveniently narrates the whole scenario; has an in-car camera; and jumps out of the car quickly, with a cell phone in his hand in a high stress situation. Seems like a setup and it would surprise me if the caller was in on it. 

are you serious?!

If it's a setup, did Mr. Crosby somehow force or encourage the officers to beat him? Did he somehow get them to discuss how to up the charges? Did he get the DA to pursue the (clearly bogus) charges?

Occam's razor aside -- if these officers are so hairtrigger that they can be reliably "set-up" this way, then they have no business carrying badges in the first place. It shouldn't be normal that officers command, then beat without waiting for compliance, then discuss how to cover up the beat-down.

Dissappointed in the EPD

Not surprised but nonetheless dissappointed. You can try but you can't explain it away. Just won't happen sir.

Overall success?

It's clear the force used initially was a bit excessive, but nothing major. The suspect sustained no injuries, police are adjusting procedures, and the suspect will get a very nice paycheck. Was this positive for all parties and beneficial when dealing with situations like this in the future? We learn from mistakes right?

Self-evident Set-up

The set-up of the Police is self-evident. Mr. Crosby jumps out of the car.  He has an object in his hand. He moves towards the cops.  He makes a jerking motion before being tackled.  It is all too convenient.

I support the Evanston Police.  They protect my home and my family.  They have an extremely difficult job.  The many reports from the Police about arrests of criminals with guns and drugs show how professional they are.  All of these arrests happen without incidents.  Now the cops have to deal with Mr. Crosby and others with political agendas or get rich schemes.  

Absolutely. Interesting how a

Absolutely. Interesting how a video that's over a year old is being dredged up during election season by one of the candidates running for mayor. Because hey, why not use police-bashing to get elected??   

Quite an Assertion

....my husband and I follow Evanston news closely. We read EvanstonNow, The Roundtable and Patch frequently. We also watch committee and city council meetings regularly on the city channel. Miller has been attempting to bring a light to this topic since he was appointed by Mayor Tisdahl. One of the attempts was with the bike light debate for which he took tremendous amounts of heat. He understood that he would get a lot of negative press before he ventured into that one because bike lights were required by law in the state of Illinois, but he used that topic as a way to bring light (pun) to what he views as a problem in Evanston. In view of this and some of his other actions, this certainly doesn't appear to be an effort to bring something to light purely in an effort to be elected Mayor. At the time of the bike light debate, Alderman Miller had not even thrown his hat in the ring to run for Mayor. I believe it is his frustration with Council antipathy toward this and several other very important resident issues that prompted him to feel he could do more for Evanston residents in the position of Mayor and that is why he is running.

People complain regularly on Evanstonnow about the way our city government is run. We finally have a slate of candidates who offer up a different way of doing business in Evanston. Could it be too much to hope that our elected officials would actually begin to represent us ahead of the monied interests in town? When I hear that our current elected officials do not like a particular candidate, or when they push a particular candidate, I ask myself why I would want to go along with more of the same. If our current council doesn't like someone, could it be because that person won't play ball? If our current council endorses a particular candidate, is it because that candidate is a "yes" person for the monied interests in town? We all have an opinion which will give us an answer to these questions. My opinion is shaped time and again by the fact that most of us do not like how our town is being run. To much picking winners... too many pet projects.... a constant reduction in city services or increase in fees while these things are being propped up.

Set up

Come on .... this was SUCH a set up ...a black man out at night with a metal bar fixing the molding on his car the side of the road in a black hoodie... why not wait to get home home to "fix" it !!??... ... what a joke ... he probably stood there pretending he was breaking in until someone saw him ... and he has a dash cam ... and he knows the exact date 2 years ago he bought his car ... he went out with a plan .. no other explanation... 

What is wrong with you?

This is a kid who was smart enough to earn a degree from Stanford. He was accepted to a PhD program at one of the top engineering uninversities in the country. And you think he risked it all and his life on some elaborate set up??!! that is nuts.

You really are nuts.

A setup?  Are the EPD so predictable in their overreactions that it's a guarantee that they would tackle him with five cops and then make up a justification for arresting him.  

If i were African-American, I would  absolutely put a dash cam in my car 

car theft arrest.

Yes, it was a setup. This young PhD student set up a camera in his car, then stood outside of it pretending to "steal" it, until someone called 911. Then he resisted arrest and refused to comply with police demands, all while making sure he was within camera view. So yes, I do blame the victim. He deliberately created the situation. And he's still lying about it. 

Traffic Stop

The Chief and those officers should resign or be fired with NO pension!  They 'assaulted' this 'suspect', when all they had to do was run his ID and Plate to verify if he was the owner! And, they should be all brought up on assault charges!

Middle of the road viewpoint

I have been reading about this story and these comments for the past few days and there is so much in this situation that hindsight affords us the opportunity to critique with rational and objective minds. The caller’s motives with calling 911 because she perceived a threat, and her subsequent actions in following someone she believed to be engaged in the commission of a crime. The officers’ conversation after detaining Mr. Crosby. So many questions, and very few answers, answers that even when rendered, will not be to the satisfaction of many.

For me, the most troubling part of this incident and resulting dialogue have been the comparisons of Mr. Crosby’s incident to the many other individuals who have died at the hands of police. To do so is a disservice to their life, their death, and the ongoing demand for justice and accountability from our law enforcement personnel. Think of Philando Castile. Granted, we do not know what happened before the video went live , but we do know that after the threat had been neutralized (read: the officer shot him), not only did the officer not render aid, he kept his service weapon aimed at Mr. Castile, while Mr. Castille, for all intents and purposes, exsanguinated to death. Think of Sandra Bland. While some might argue that she was “belligerent” (oftentimes the label associated with Blacks who challenge authority and/or the notion of “right” or “normal”), not once did we see Ms. Bland make any physical indication that she was a threat to the officer. Think about Charles Kinsey who shot by police while he was on his back, with both hands in the air in a t-shirt and jogging shorts…in broad daylight. Compare that to the actions of Mr. Crosby. This incident happened 1) at night, to someone who, 2) KNEW he was being followed and 4) was not surprised when he was pulled over and in fact, 5) expected to be pulled over, yet, 6) he jumped out of his vehicle immediately after being pulled over, 7) with an unknown object in his hand, 8) faced the squad car, and 9) did not immediately comply with the officer’s command to “get down.” Seriously? I do not understand at what point Mr. Crosby became a “victim” in this incident, and definitely not enough to draw parallels to the many other men and women have been killed by police. While we might want to give the benefit of the doubt about him being emotional, I also do not see where that came into play due to the fact that there was no element of surprise here: Mr. Crosby expected to be pulled over and narrated the entire incident. This was someone who was had the mental capacity to mention he knew his 5th amendment rights and also knew the exact date of purchase of his vehicle. Granted, I don’t think this incident was set up, but I do think these actions belie the whole belief that he is a “victim” and his unwise actions were the result of being “emotional.”

As problematic as it is that we as a society are to this point, interactions with the police are not the opportunities for curbside activism. This is ultimately going to be resolved in a court of law, which is where this should have started and ended to begin with. Civilians and police are both getting killed; the face off should not be before each other, it should be in front judges and juries.