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The site of the old Ubaa Tap on the Skokie side of Crawford Avenue just south of Old Orchard Road could become a new Walgreens drug store if a developer’s plans win approval from village officials.

The bar, which reportedly opened in 1939, was a fixture for northwest Evanston residents as the closest place for a drink during the long decades when Evanston didn’t allow liquor sales.

The property, and some adjoining storefronts, have been on the market for more than a year and the family-owned bar has been closed for months.

The developers of the planned 14,490 square foot Walgreens are asking that the project include a drive-thru and permission for liquor sales. 

Skokie’s Plan Commission is scheduled to discuss the project at 7:30 p.m. on Thursday, Dec. 6, at village hall, 5127 Oakton St.

The site plan will be available on Monday on the village website. For more information, call the Skokie Community Development Department at 847-933-8447.

Top: The Ubaa site in an image from Google Street View.

Bill Smith is the editor and publisher of Evanston Now.

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  1. I’ve been wondering

    I've been wondering. All the storefronts are vacant except for the tile store. I like the tile store. What will become of it?

  2. CVS down the street

    A block or two from CVS?  That makes no sense at all.  They want a liquor license with Schaefer's and Toni's almost next door?  I'm sure they'll be upset.

    What about the condos/apartments just north of there, are they happy about this?

    Plus, that great intersection will be a mess

    1. CVS down the street…that’s the point

      There is a CVS down the street…Walgreen's is a competitor of CVS.

      So if CVS is doing good business,then this area can clearly support a pharmacy.

      Who cares if condos/apartments are happy? 

      I like the tile store too, but a new Walgreens would be nice ….especially if it is a fancy schmanzy Walgreens, like the State & Randolph location.

    2. Expert?

      I am sure Walgreens has researched the area with marketing studies and determined it a good location.

      Only Evanstonians would shun such a viable business and try to reject it. 

      And are you an expert in the drug store business?

    3. Central planning

      Fascism:

      "fascism left the appearance of market relations while planning all economic activities. Where socialism abolished money and prices, fascism controlled the monetary system and set all prices and wages politically. In doing all this, fascism denatured the marketplace. Entrepreneurship was abolished. State ministries, rather than consumers, determined what was produced and under what conditions."
          Taken from the Concise Enclopedia of Economics  http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/Fascism.html

      1. A few things…

        A few things: First of all, this wouldn't be an example of central planning. If anything this would be an example of decentralized planning, but that'd be a stretch (and thus a falsehood) as the means aren't owned by the state and are still in a market framework.

        The Soviet Union had a centrally planned economy, Moscow made decisions regarding production. Is Washington approving and/or controlling this enterprise? No. Is Skokie going to control this enterprise? No. The enterprise will still operate within a market framework. Thus, this is not an example of central planning.

        Second of all, socialism need not "abolish money". The Soviet Union, China, Cuba, etc… all have / had currency. Get this: there is even a variant of socialism which involves socialized means of production but within a market framework, it's called market socialism.

        Thirdly, fascism entails much more than simply what is described in your quote, it's a much more complicated economic, political, and social system. It is absolutely ridiculous to equate this subject to anything to do with centrally planning, socialism, or fascism.

        I'd suggest laying off of the classical liberal literature for your sources of economics and especially on systems it opposes. The bias within that site is strikingly obvious. 

    4. Business planning of locations

      I was surprised Walgreens would want to build there with CVS within several blocks.

      But then again I was surprised when Jewel on Greenbay and next to Dominicks built a new store a few blocks north instead of maybe Wilmette's Ridge and Wilmette Ave..where they would have had customers all to themselves [as i recall they closed the one on Ridge and Lake.

      Or Subway, I'm told, actually wants to build next to McDonalds.  I don't know if McDonalds wants to build next to Subway.  Of course it would have to be outside of Evanston since Evanston seems to want to keep McDonalds [and so many other stores] out.

      In Evanston we don't have that fear of a Walgreens next to a CVS.  We once had a Walgreens, Hoos drugs (where Einstein's bagels is now), Huerbinger's drugs (where Radio Shack is now), and of course Osco which thought they had an agreement to move back into the complex where Barnes and Noble is.

      Then again McDonalds thought they would be able to move back into the remodelled Orrington Hotel. Both had the rug pulled out.  Now we have one drug store downtown and an empty resturant at the ground floor of the Orrington with no sales taxes coming in.

      The Council does not know how to 'pick winners' with all the gifts they make, they do know how to pick losers and keep winners out.

  3. Thank you for your history

    Thank you for your history lesson. So you suggest that we should simply rewrite books and definitions that don't validate your view point? Wow.

    As for your idea of market socialism, I want nothing to do with it. It fully abandons market economics to have local politicians decide which store may produce which services where. On a national scene, it is frightening to observe lobbyists of large corporations write the laws of the land and government running mortgage, auto, aviation, banking, insurance, farming, arms….

    Do you really believe "market socialism" is the future of this country? Scary

     

    1. I stated nothing but facts,

      I stated nothing but facts, nothing was rewritten or outside of historic canon. You obviously have no interest in actually pointing out where I "rewrote history". The only historic references I made were related to the Soviet Union and other socialist countries, in which, I stated two facts: production was mainly controlled by officials in Moscow. The other statement was that The Soviet Union and other socialist countries have and had currency. I ask you: what exactly am I re-writing?

      As for market socialism, I merely used that to show you there is no one "socialism", there are variants of it and different types. I never said anything even remotely stating my opinion on it and what I want for this country. Not only this, but you've gone ahead and taken the liberty of defining market socialism yourself and. unsurprisingly. missed the correct definition. Market socialism simply refers to a system whereby the means of production are owned by the workers but operate within a market economy, this is an alternative to centralized and decentralized planning you're describing in your definition.

      "On a national scene, it is frightening to observe lobbyists of large corporations write the laws of the land and government running mortgage, auto, aviation, banking, insurance, farming, arms…." This I totally agree with.

      1. We can disagree back and

        We can disagree back and forth about the definitions of various forms of economic intervention by the govenment. 

        My point is that it is alarming that so many people in this town appear to WANT the government to intervene in the private market place to control which businesses are allowed-   whether this is a market socialist system, a fascist system, or state capitalism- it doesn't change the fact that many citizens don't want to allow the free market, or masses of people, to vote with their money, which strays from the values on which our country was built.

         

  4. Skokie, meet Evanston’s NIMBYS

    People with all their nonsense about locating next to a CVS or a liquor store or whatever, are completely clueless.  I suppose Walgreens has had the success they have had because they're just lucky with no real understanding of their business or the markets they operate in.

    I'm pretty sure Skokie will give little consideration to the probable and typical the sky will fall hysteria sure to come from the NIMBYS of Evanston.  Bring on the drive thru Walgreens, IMO that Evanston CVS is a lousy store and needs some competition.

  5. UBAA

    I have nothing against Walgreens.  I shop there on occassion, and it appears to be a well-run establishment.  I am sure that their new store on Crawford, if it is approved, will be a fine place to shop.  But I am an old sentimatalist who likes taverns, and I spent some time at the UBAA.  It was a great place, warm and comfortable as a down blanket.  There are many Walgreens stores in our area, but there was only one UBAA.  When we lose a place like this, we lose a small piece of our collective soul.

    Well, maybe I am getting too schmaltzy here.   

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